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Elena or Helen daughter of Llywelyn the Great Llywelyn
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Name Elena or Helen daughter of Llywelyn the Great Llywelyn Gender Female Person ID I8011 Strange Genealogy Last Modified 3 May 2018
Father Llywelyn the Great Llywelyn ap Lorwerth Lorwerth Mother Joan Lady of Wales of Snowdon Snowdon, b. 1191, d. 2 Feb 1237 (Age 46 years) Family ID F5851 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family Domhnall I Earl of Mar Domhnall mac Uilleim Mar, d. Abt 1300 Children 1. Isabella of Mar Mar Last Modified 3 May 2018 Family ID F5850 Group Sheet | Family Chart
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Notes - At Easter 1230, William de Braose, who was Llywelyn's prisoner at the time, was discovered with Joan in Llywelyn's bedchamber. William de Braose was hanged on 2 May 1230, according to local folklore at Abergwyngregyn; the place was known as 'Gwern y Grog'. A letter from Nicholas, Abbot of Vaudy, suggests that the execution took place at Crogen near Bala(crogi = to hang).[3]
Joan was placed under house arrest for twelve months after the incident. She was then, according to the Chronicle of Chester, forgiven by Llywelyn, and restored to favour. She may have given birth to a daughter early in 1231.
Joan was never called Princess of Wales, but, in Welsh, "Lady of Wales".
- At Easter 1230, William de Braose, who was Llywelyn's prisoner at the time, was discovered with Joan in Llywelyn's bedchamber. William de Braose was hanged on 2 May 1230, according to local folklore at Abergwyngregyn; the place was known as 'Gwern y Grog'. A letter from Nicholas, Abbot of Vaudy, suggests that the execution took place at Crogen near Bala(crogi = to hang).[3]